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state of Bavaria had the small arms issued to its members of the Pictured is an unknown maker German Police Interestingly, this pistol was part of an early period, fancy wooden case, which included provisions for two spare magazines, cleaning rod, box of period ammunition and a loading tool. Regimental markings on a 1916 P08 Luger - Arms and other weapons - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum. Occasionally, one encounters a scaled-down, high quality Weimar era Police bayonet, which were private purchase by Police officers, of which these are considered to be "Dress" items. Pictured is a German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, converted to accept a P.08 Luger pistol by modifying the holster body entrance. Furthermore, later style, purportedly Magdeburg Depot rework Mg10 Stick Wing eagle stamps have been identified on the rear frame of P08 Lugers that are much smaller than the earlier and larger Weimar eagle style E/Mg10 stampings of the 41 dated WwMg/41 and E/Mg10 P08 holsters and of the subject Police holster. new style of police holster was introduced without a holster spine attached cleaning rod sleeve, replacing it with a spare magazine pouch. Magistrat und Polizeiverwaltung Stadt Reichenbach=Municipality and police administration City Reichenbach, Knigl. He should conscientiously fulfill his obligations, should be professional in his measures, be in touch with the public, but also act strictly against obvious violations, on the other hand avoid all incidents or even abuses by which the mood of a considerable part of the population is even more against those Police are involved when it is unfortunately already the case. Helping Police). Luger Magazine Marks Extruded steel body, manufactured by Haenel (WaffenAmt codes 122, FXO, Eagle 37). regulations issued in 1920, and are shown in the following table. While lacking a rear horizontal stitch line, the holster body cavity rear panel is secured at the lower edge by the lower belt loop stitching. Bild (picture) 102-00327A Foto: o .Ang. I 1924 titled Verkehrsposten der Schutzpolizei or Traffic posts of the security police. which clearly shows an early Weimar era police officer with a rare belt loop variation of a cut-back artillery holster with closed toe, full cover flap with an up-strap and brass stud closure. Since these cut back LP08 holsters, at least in the Weimar era, had no provision for a spare magazine, the police officer carries a twin magazine pouch on his belt. No tool pouch. back-side attached single, horizontal leather stock block strip and removing the center block. Holster front view pictured with P.08. Pw.B. Pictured are view 1 and view 2 of this unusual marked police holster. "Jt" being the abbreviation for the Ingolstadt HZa. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Pictured for comparison are two different examples of Artillery holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass studs with demonstrably different shapes and sizes or dimensions. 413 or Landjgerei Gumbinnen; view 1 and view 2. Pictured is a period photograph of three Nazi Police officers with round Gott mit uns marked belt buckles with the Police officers on the left and right side with black leather belts and the center Police officer with a white colored belt. It didn't really have to exactly comply or match others issued to a military unit preparing for battle. the police cleaning rod was used in conjunction with a Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector attached to the P.08 sight band/block, many collectors and dealers are not revolutionaries. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. My question, please forive if its too absurd, is" Why weren't the Riff Contract pistols ordered from the Simson Co.?" Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, as identified by ink stampings located on the inside cover flap, WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung, an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. introduced sometime in the late 1920s, and later in the early 1930s, many being police acceptance marked on the shaft. 355. I. German Police Forces during the Weimar Era, [This information is lifted almost verbatim from Weimar and Early (113P) DWM 1920 Police Rework Luger Pistol . The lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the test. As a matter of note the police cleaning rod could be used without the barrel attached muzzle protector. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. back-side attached single, horizontal leather stock block strip and removing the center block. N.b.5. Nevertheless, cut-back artillery Luger holsters are inexplicably associated with the new police cleaning rods and appears self-evident that possibly, some of the new design police cleaning rods with brass stops were carried in the attached cleaning rod pouches of the converted LP.08 artillery to police holsters, and they also could be found in police stations. Still 1993, page 174, Figure 45a, the below pictured holster is an LOB example of the first style, first pattern, pre 1925 new manufacture Weimar era, unmarked police holster. It is assumed that at the time of the conversion the holster was still brown. There is a Luftwaffe Eagle 2. The 2008 discussions were all over the map with collectors stating that the WOL Costanzo comments were incorrect, disputing the WaAJL16 stamp as incorrectly interpreted by Costanzo as being WaAJt16. 1st model prototype. 2 Policing Germany, including Police Unit Marks Chapt. Pictured is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation 1 muzzle protector. by Igorak89 07 May 2016, 13:07, Post The leather, stitching and markings are complete. Mge auch die zweite Uuslage jedem Polizeibeamten weiterhin ein gutter Fhrer auf dem schwierigen Gebiete des polizeilichen Missens sein. Over all good condition. Eagle/L proofed aluminum bottom magazine is not. As always, I'm not responsible for any inaccuracies in the data, just for swiveling wooden barrel shaped handle, implying the police cleaning rods are a stand-alone tool. The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. License and control of businesses; street lighting; control and upkeep of road surfaces; night watchmen; wells & water conduits; fire fighting; street begging; public health; passport, registration, and aliens' affairs; the Theater Police; the Market Police; servants office; embezzlement; control of gambling; the Morals Police; trade affairs; issue of hunting licenses; control of mentally ill and insane, and facilities for them; supervision of trucking matters; construction matters; and . The holster was dyed black as evidenced on the holster body back panel original brown color. In addition, the Guide provides guidance on wages and pension issues for the police. Please help me with identifying those markings. is the only publication that is very specific as to its use, unfortunately, This was naturally discontinued with the dissolution of the Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline, MO 64658 USA.]. A 1925 dated report of the IMKK notes noncompliance and One of just 1,000 made, it includes Cyrillic safety markings and crossed Mosin Nagant rifle engravings (Photos: RIA). Interestingly, this example used the expected regulation police holster up-strap and stud closure. it is stamped on the rear with the original holstered police Luger serial number 5008. fortunately the holster still retains the matching 5008 serial number stamped loading tool. All P-08 Military Lugers. Choose whether you want the sealed, opened box, or the marking stamp. Das geistige Rstzeug fr seine Umtsausbung muss er so vllig besitzen, das ser jederzeit das Rechte trifft. If one were to attempt to take a WW1 holster & bubba it up for profit. var links=new Array() Estimated Price: $ 8,500 - $ 14,000 Price Realized: Outstanding World War II Nazi 1941 Dated Single Digit Serial Number 3y Mauser Banner Eagle/L Police Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol with Two Matching Magazines and 1941 Dated Police Holster Manufacturer: Mauser Model: P08 Type: Pistol Gauge: 9 mm Luger Barrel: 3 7/8 inch round Finish: blue rotating clockwise the short collar section, about 270 degrees by 1) rotating the threaded, knurled Also, the same holster is pictured with a 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. Additionally perplexing and unclear is the reason or purpose for a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster. 1703 marked muzzle protector attached to a P.08 barrel, which is part of a 4mm sub caliber training assembly, which could also be used as a stand-alone muzzle protector in conjunction with the new police cleaning rod with brass stopper. by Poot 06 May 2016, 07:54, Post Pistols and Holsters. In the TBLAP, Fig. a 4-digit 1108 believed to be a Police P.08 serial number. In actuality, a really rhetorical issue, as except for the two pictured and discussed holsters, being the only known published examples noted to date. Faded roman numeral ink stampings on the inside cover flap indicate Imperial army, possibly depot origins. Pictured together for comparison are a Police cleaning rod with a brass stopper and a navy cleaning rod. Otherwise, the magazine has no proof stamps or markings besides the serial number. the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked S.B. A single example exists of an extremely rare 1943 dated variation, made of impregnated pressed paper and is pictured in TPLAP, V3, page 1245 Fig. of Stettin. The tube is in excellent condition with most . The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a TP or Technische Polizeischule property stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7691;view 1, view 2 and view 3. The variation 1 police marked 4mm sub caliber muzzle protector that can be installed in a single step seems more practical for use with the police cleaning rod. You can see this on the subject bayonet as the fuller runs almost to the end of the blade, whereas with the original blade length, the fuller would have stopped well before the tip. Article modified: Sunday, 7 July 2019. - Kommando Wuertzburg, Kraftfahr-Sonderabteilung, institute for technology and transport. DWM Luger Identification Guide. I figured out the other markings from earlier posts. administrative district, Enumeration of centuria, or factory numbers, or property numbers, Berlin stamping for another letter or number, but since the upper portion of the left side rectangle enclosure line is partially obscured by the steel washer, resulting in a light stamping, missing a possible letter or number, which is a result of stamping too close to the underside washer, securing the cover flap steel stud. The note below is from Jim Cate and was posted on the NAPCA Forum. Still and as illustrated in a very rare 1930s Walther advertising brochure titled: WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung and an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. Still further states: Reportedly, muzzle protectors were issued with some Prussian State Police Lugers. . The right side of the slide has a weimar eagle with WaA66 below. The unusual marking is located between the belt loops. It is a matter of common courtesy to credit the past authors/collectors that for the last three decades have discussed the 29 DWM Lugers in the s, t and u suffix serial range. In actuality, both above statements are correct, as the first statement that a majority of the cut-back LP.08 holsters used by the police are without a police cleaning rod is accurate, however, in cannot be denied that some, at least one, in this instance, was modified (unsuccessfully), specifically to carry the police cleaning rod as evidenced the very rare subject example. 3 days Left MAUSER C96 RED 9 POLICE, SIMSON REWORK. droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. S.Br.I.365 - Schutzpolizei of Breslau, first precinct, item 365, LS.Al.13 - item 13 of the Landjaegerei school in Allenstein, K.B.526 - item 526 of the Kriminalpolizei of Berlin. Pictured is one such example with pattern likely dating from the Weimar period, identified as a German fire defense police belt buckle with a beautiful design emblem with the following inscription of: God to Honor ~ Neighbor to Defend. 3. However, in 1941, Fraktur was banned in a Schrifterlass (edict on script) signed by Martin Bormann as so-called Schwabacher Judenlettern ("Schwabacher Jewish letters"). made LP.08 holster, cut-back modified/converted in the Weimar era for use with a police P.08, 4-inch barrel Luger. Was it a difference in caliber or what is obvious that I am missing. In HIlfs-POlizei you found only Danes, enemies to their own countrymen. equipment during the Imperial and Weimar eras. regulations issued in 1922, and are shown in the following table. Thanks for the additional information. (Schutzpolizei Berlin) 12022 Xd. The die application was quite sloppy in some areas, an example being the loading tool pouch located inside the cover flap where the black die was applied with the cover flap closed. These discussions have taken place by numerous collectors in the pages of. The pistol is fitted with a set of checkered walnut grips. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. be a very rare, late date for a second conversion of a WW1 artillery holster to a P.08 style, police unit marked holster. German: Foreign Mfg. GERMAN POLICE LUGER P08 MAGAZINE DOVE MARKINGS. ad[9]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash3.jpg'; Description. Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. Description. Hardback with dust cover. and Band II or Volume II published in 1921 Weimar Germany with the cover title: Das Lehrbuch fr die Polizeischulen or The textbook for the police schools. The two-piece assembly can also be Made in Germany and completely lead free. view 2 and view 3. - Kommando Nuernberg-Fuerth, berittene Abteilung, gun 5, W.K.S.5. period and evaded restrictions placed on them. 355. Im ubrigen hat aber das Bestreben vorgeherrscht, den Iert und Uusbau des Buches mglicht in seiner bisherigen Form zu warhen. Pictured is a variation 1, spring loaded muzzle protector, which is the only one of two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army as indicated by the droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example, not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded, 4mm; excellent bore, 5'' barrel insert for Luger pistols chambered in .30 Luger (7.65mm Parabellum), two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. document.write(''). Opening the loading tool cover flap reveals the original brown leather. Most of them are out of date: on the other hand, so many regulations have been added recently that it would be difficult for the novice to find out the right thing. Mauser or the Police HQ in Berlin? They killed, tortured, blew up houses, factories and even Tivoli in Copenhagen, not for any other reasons than terrorism, ordered by Hitler personally and the Nazi occupation forces, getting more and more mad as the end came still nearer. If you are looking for something similarly long, RIA has a Farsi-marked Persian contract Mauser Artillery Luger with an 8-inch barrel. 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced. Vorfchrift fr die Waffen= und Schieausbildung der Ordnnungspistolen. Luger Extractor Marks Luger Safety Marks Luger Magazine Marks Light sheet steel body with crimped edges. Thus, unit marks give one some history about the items on which This is German WWI Naval crown m marked on the left receiver. 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $150 . Pictured is a 1943 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN police holster with a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. Lugers! (BSP) (Railway Protection Police) as identified by ink stampings located on the inside cover flap being BAHN SCHUTZ and RBD/Rbd (ReichsBahnDirektionen) ESSEN (RUHR). Regarding the completely intact magazine safety of 4559t, very few of these police Lugers survived as nearly all of these magazine safety assemblies were deactivated by cutting off the front end of the mechanism under a decree of May 1937. Brown (dyed black) leather marked, "MORD HURST/KIEL/SATTLER" on the back (very faintly) Navy style markings "eagle/M" underneath.. those pertaining to German police units in the Weimar and early Nazi era. Figure 47c shows a table or bench with several Police Lugers and accessories and particularly interesting in the foreground is a muzzle protector, next to three training rounds. Pictured are multiple views of the above mentioned 1908/13 Commercial-Army-Police P.08 Luger, s/n 69859. states the following regarding this variation. This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. This example is a very rare 1943 dated military contract piece in 9mm, one of just 300 produced that year. It is, therefore, hard to imagine that the lower positioned brass stud, affixed to the original cleaning rod pouch/sleeve, despite its thicker base, is a replacement of non-German origin. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- 31. There are impression lines around this WaA both top and bottom where the edges of the stamp have struck the leather. 2. The gun was converted to a German Police Luger during the Nazi era sometime between 1928, the year of manufacture, and 1934 by adding a sear safety and forward gripstrap Police marking, longitudinally stamped "S.M. The E/WaAJL16 is, by all accounts to date, similar to, or a variation of, the acceptance stamp for Factory Guard/Werkschutz issue. We talked to a subject matter expert who repairs WW1 / WW2 h Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. JavaScript is disabled. The 662V serial number described in the text caption was substituted with 873V. and - S. H. 133. are hidden, being located under the cover flap, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s are prominently marked. The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. Chapter 4, p. 64 & Chapter 7, pp. In the example 2 conversion, to a complete P.08 style holster, the rear, horizontal leather stock block was removed and twin belt loops were added, curiously, one wider than the other, which may be a later repair replacement. Der Mangel an einschlgigen Fachbchern ift oft betlagt worden. It is uncertain how long the holster remained in the pre-1928 first conversion, shortened LP.08 police pattern as the balance of the changes that constitute the second conversion are unique to this holster, starting with the removal of the up-strap, cover flap keeper and brass stud, plugging the cover flap stud anchor hole, and replacing the original artillery up-strap with a non-standard for a police holster, originally black paint/enamel coated metal belt buckle, keeper and strap cover flap closure. rear threaded section to be rotated clockwise until it is snug against the rear 5. Muenchen (Munich procurement office), Wirtschaftsamt The first set of letters on the line indicate the military or police unit When found, the holsters are generally expensive, even in fair to poor condition. centered in the federal states of Prussia, Bavaria, Baden, Wuerttemberg, Borchardt-Luger - produced 1895-1896. (communications training Most observed are reworks with double date or blank chambers of DWM and ERFURT.(shown below) The eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. Reportedly next to the remaining lot of 2,760 of these readied blank toggle pistols also a small quantity of unmarked toggles came from Berlin to Oberndorf. An inspection of other pre-WW1 Artillery holster/stocks in the collection shows yet another shape/style and size of cleaning rod pouch/sleeve affixed brass stud. links[7]='https://www.marnamilitaria.com'; When identified, either gold or silver, some dated and maker marked, these Prussian State Police belt buckles are described as officer belt buckles and this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. Pictured are two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle and multiple views of the subject Police holster, being view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). links[4]='http://www.theoldbrigade.co.uk'; It is curious that the subject converted LP.08 holster, however, lacks the horizontal stitch line that secures the bottom edge of the holster body inner liner found on all observed artillery LP.08 holsters, original and converted. Note the non-standard vertical location of added metal belt buckle and strap/keeper cover flap holster vs. the regulation positioned and angled location of Numbers are matching except for firing pin. 19-105, being offered by a noted dealer for an equally extremely rare four-digit price, Possibly post-WW2 East Germany DDR Police holster. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 9 ----------------------------------------------------------. Military Control Commission), was established to enforce the provisions of An examination of another cut-back Artillery to Police holster in the LOB collection, dated 1915 made by P. Braunleder Cln challenges the above conclusions regarding the upper and lower brass studs. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in The wooden cased German pistol cleaning kits were, apparently, not made exclusively for the P.08 Luger as a 1946 German police instruction manual titled: Die Pistolen der Polizie, dated Dresden 1946 specifically lists several pistols, including the P.08, although other pistols listed are mostly 7.65 mm caliber, all used by the German Police after WW2. Inter-war Commercial Lugers (both rework and new manufacture); all Police models (both rework and new manufacture); and all Dutch and Finnish Lugers are of particular interest. The reworking ends in May 1921. Estimated price on these beauties run between $3,500-$25,000. eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. Army, Navy, Police. From the Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess collection. [5] The S. M. 1074 markings are crossed-out with an X punch and re-stamped, positioned perpendicular at the forward gripstrap toe with an added Ostsee property number O.1057. S.Al.II 1. 1935 and 1936 are the only known manufacturing dates for the TP or Technische Polizeischule property marked holsters. police cleaning rods, describes them as: Original Einwohnerwehr in 1921. a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger, The third is a late 1920s sear bar and magazine safety, German acceptance stamped E/WaA66 Police Luger s/n 4559t. Still, page 174 Figure 28b describes and pictures a P.08 barrel installed ERMA muzzle protector in the text caption that states: This device fits over the muzzle of a Luger and reportedly protects the barrel rifling at the muzzle from the cleaning rod shaft. Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. The IMKK, Inter-Alliierte Militaer-Kontroll-Kommission (Inter-Allied Still. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. Lugers and P38 Markings MarshalZhukov 4.55K subscribers Subscribe 238 Share Save 122K views 13 years ago This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38. Bayern (Bavarian Police Defense Force), Identification of individual units or independent centuria within an jeb111. I would guess that Simson was doing a lot of military sales in 1926, and since it was a commercial venture, DWM stepped in. They sure set off a display real nice. Pictured are three views of a fine example holster; view 1, view 2, view 3. Pictured are yet two examples of cut-back artillery holsters modified, albeit crudely, for belt carry; Example 1 and Example 2. 3 days Left DWM MODEL 1914 ARTILLERY LUGER SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. It worked through various Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN marked police holster with a Weimer era Sunburst K police inspection stamp; view 1. stamping, there is enough room to the left of the defined and enhanced rectangular cartouche type enclosed S. H.133. Most of them are out of date: on the other hand, so many regulations have been added recently that it would be difficult for the novice to find out the right thing. Per Luger collectors the E/Mg10 marking is rarely encountered. For the rest, however, there has been a tendency to warn the book in its existing form as far as possible. From the same time period is this beautiful DWM Swiss contract Model 1906 Luger sold on the commercial market in 1920s, and includes a vintage shooting medal from the Moudon, a historic town in the canton of Vaud in Switzerland. ERFURT LUGER 1920/1917 POLICE REWORK - C40363 9mm; 96% blue, 40% straw, very good bore, good grips, 4'' barrel, This is a Police reworked pistol. 1014 stamped on the back side along with an Eagle/Mg10 stamping, considered by Luger collectors to be rare on holsters, particularly on Police Luger holsters. This Luger has all matching numbers. Opening the loading tool cover flap reveals the original brown leather. Yes it DWM marked but without a chamber date. Other than the most notable features of the cut-back artillery holsters is the toe plug and the cleaning rod sleeve of these former artillery Luger holsters, none are the same, as there are other changes, such as method of carry, where Sturgess in TBLAP suggests, that with the lack of belt loops they were carried over the shoulder, somehow utilizing the rear attached leather stock block, although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the Note: Air surveillance departments controlled by the provincial The new police, which is basically intended for the field service and uniformed, not only provides the general security service, but also for the maintenance of order, calm and cleanliness, for the regulation of touch, for the outer sanctuary of Sundays and holidays, the singing transport system and finally ensure that the principles of business sports are observed. 3. eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, Possibly post-WW2 East Germany DDR Police holster with an under-the-cover flap, ink stamped maker in three lines: Koffer- u. Lederwarghnfabrik ZeitzS.L.V.SaaleZeitz or Holster and Leather Goods Factory ZeitzS.L.V.SaaleZeitz. It is speculated that the shift was also motivated by the need to communicate with occupied territories during WW2 and the use of Fraktur would inhibit that communication. (For more information, consult The Imperial German monogram markings appear on the 1st toggle link and the extractor is marked 'Geladen' (Loaded). Vickers Ltd. - England&break;6. 1074." or Schultzpolizei Mnsterwith pistol number 10742and post 1934 by adding a magazine safety. II. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in Pictured is a brown leather example with regulation holster body attached holster body spare magazine pouch with up-strap and cover flap keeper slit and steel stud closure. cut-back modified/converted in the Weimar era for use with a police P.08, 4-inch barrel Luger. ad[2]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/JRBMbanner.jpg'; The eagle in front is the type of the Weimar era and was in use from 1919 - 1939. Pictured is an identical holster in the collection and additionally pictured with a 1908/13 commercial/military/police, no chamber date Luger, serial number 69859 and a separate view of 69859 serialized in the hidden commercial style.

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